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Yes but they need to stop spamming bitcoin to try and achieve that as it put me off if they got spammed bcash network would be just as expensive and shit!

Please prove that there is "spam" and after you give an objective definition for "spam transactions".

There's nothing whatsoever suggesting that at any point with any level of adoption Bitcoin Cash (Bitcoin as per the whitepaper and Satoshi himself) would be having the same issues as Bitcoin Segwit is suffering due to its constrained blocksize and butchered incentives.

You've been duped by the side using sock puppets to call us the same. They censor and manipulate opinion constantly. Only recently did they lift the veil ever so slightly on r/Bitcoin and BitcoinTalk again, but by now they can not be trusted.

Satoshi would have been ashamed.

Nothing new. I honestly don't buy that the issues originate merely from "spam" by anone or any group. Even if there are small transactions, even if they are done intentionally and even if it should turn out that it was a coordinated attack even. It's not enough.

The rest remain the same.

The problem is obviously because of infighting and governance as the scaling issue does need to be solved still but spam is compounding the problem by causing network congestion and even higher fees