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Ah lagers just piss me off for how complicated they are to make with all the extra steps for such little extra return. Otherwise, I can appreciate a light clean beer as they are difficult to make but definitely have ruined my palate so that it has to be strong and hoppy for me to be thrilled at all. I know I am in the minority in this of the top-10 list at the beer store is any indication ;)

I'm not sure I understand the point of lagers either. 90 day fermentation instead of 30 day and storing at colder temperatures and like you said, what's really to gain in all that? I often find that they are more likely to be a little skunky as well.

Lagered ales are especially bizarre. That's a head shaker. What's the point! Lol