Voting should be done by curating content, is what we've all learned.
Over time and hardforks though, things have started to change. Nowadays you can delegate your votes so other middlemen "curate" with them or straight sell them. If we are going to continue with this curation curve I believe there will be more and more services popping up where you will be able to do more things with your votes than just curate on posts.
I agree with rewarding user's contributions through votes and I feel a lot of the votes I receive may be because of curators knowing how much I contribute daily to the Steem ecosystem. Likewise with projects like Utopian and others they reward their contributors and developers with votes.
I can easily see project popping up, probably once SBD decides to stabilize a bit and Steem as well, where you will be able to do so much more with votes than just case them on content you feel deserve the rewards. Steem is evolving and it won't just be about blogging in my eyes.
Imagine a service that sells you things for your votes, being able to buy something instantly with a few votes doesn't sound all that impossible anymore. Of course there are risk of flags but maybe the service can price that in like shops do with thieves. It is kinda crazy to think about what this could mean for the platform, once we have more evolved services where you can just enter a shop, have your phone with you and they give you a link you can scan and throw a vote on their comment that allows you to buy a hamburger.
There is no point to unvoting cause you don't get back the voting power you spend - unless you feel the service you received was really bad. ;) Maybe the shopowners might ban you from that restaurant in the future if you have unvoted them or they notice someone constantly flagging your votes.
I can't wait to see how SMT's will effect these sort of things and everything you will be able to do with your voting power in the future.
Steemians: What's something that you are looking forward to doing with your votes?
I am coming to the realisation that I am going to have to adjust my behaviours whether I like it or not. I would love quality content based services but this reality isn't going to be attractive to most large users considering the payoff without caring. However, to be a part of that future, one has to keep up or be made obsolete, right?
To answer the question though, in some future I am just hoping that I am able to somewhat support myself by supporting others live better lives. I would love to be able to invest through votes into all kinds of projects for medical, tech, charity etc... The future could be awesome.
Hey Taraz! Let's assume we're in a far future where you could earn the same amount of STEEM/SBD by curating qualitative projects/minnows as you would make by posting 4 good articles a day like you're doing a the moment. You can only choose one option.. Which one would you choose, and why? :)
I have written about it before. I would likely split the difference and may even write as much but decline payouts. But, if I I was earning very well, I would spread it to others who are much better at what they do than me. If I was a billionaire, I would likely be working my ass off to invest into as many useful projects as possible.
:)
getting the suport as you've requested iss somewht hard to obtain, most minnows are unable to gain enough steem to even seek for curations, and most time it is really frustrating.
I'm aware of that, but it was just a hypothetical question :D. But you're right, minnows just have to slowly work their way up through contests, comments and decent posts that get some curie/ocd love :)
I can see upvotes being used as a reward-mechanism in games being built around the topic STEEM. Maybe like the game "Hodl the coin" from @limesoda for example.
Something like: "Get on the leaderboard and get an upvote for it. 1st place 100%, second place 90%, and so on"
One of many possibilities :D
I'm just growing my SP as an virtual penis. I'm proud as it grows bigger and bigger, but I still don't know what I'm going to do with it.
I might just delegate quite much of it to others. Then just enjoy seeing my account is worth a lot of money and still not stressing about using large upvotes.
I can relate to the first part of your comment.
okay, this earns an upvote for making me laugh out loud!
Well, when you consider that a vote has an instant monetary value, yeah... that's a whole new type of economy. One where people can spend because they're invested in the transactionary system. It's a whole different way of doing things...
Might have to write a post about this!
You should. :)
Never thought of that would be cool to buy a hamburger with an upvote lol
sounds quite ridiculous, huh :D
ya lmao but voting power does = money so its totally possible
My voting power is shit so my greed didn't wake up yet. All my voting power goes to people I like on steemit hahaha.
My honest opinion about the shop selling things for votes or steemit tokens: The price has to be fixed then.
Using votes to pay for goods and services would be a very nice initiative.. Although it will be difficult for most service providers to accept due to the fact that steem can decide to fall and the vote value reduces drastically.. It's a two way thing tho
Yeah there's a risk, but nowadays there's a risk in everything. :p
If they accepted votes that would have to be 10-20% higher in value then maybe they can mitigate that risk a bit and consumers wouldn't mind cause "its just votes" maybe.
I can't wait to see how SMT's will effect these sort of things and everything you will be able to do with your voting power in the future.
I am too eager to see that, there are certain things which really need to be corrected ASAP, hope with time everything gets fine, Today I was doing chat with some anonymous, he told me that you dont post on daily bases and as a result of which your steem power is getting wasted, deligate me your 50 SP and I will give you 0.05 SBD everyday in return, I was really shocked, pure business happening in this platform, these things should really be avoided.
I demand that the day comes where I can use my vote to get a bottle of whiskey.
Either that, or I'd be down for using my vote to feed my dumb ass hobbies. I'd be fine with either, but preferably it would be better to be drunk, opening up Pokemon cards and playing vidja games.
Well that is an interesting way of using an upvote to buy a burger.
So say that the restaurant owner have the menu of the week and so everyone that wants to order will be upvoting it for the appropriate amount.
You can easily see people who cheat and unvote but can also be used for unscrupulous or shoddy products.
Now what I would really want Steem power to do is be able to find charity organizations like @youarehope or @tarc that will greatly benefit a whole lot of people.
I myself I am always increasing my SP so someday I will be able to support my own charity @giftinkindph which we have been operating for the pass 12 years.
steem will be a way to humanize the blockchain and pave a way for mass adoption.
I'm not really hoping to do anything with my voting power besides upvoting friends and content I want to support. What I'm interested is using my voting power to upvote quality comments so the discourse and questions are encouraged. Too much good content goes without any community interaction. Like one dude said after he got curie upvote... the upvote is nice but it feels empty because even with that upvote no quality community interaction was had.
And sometimes I feel the same. I extremely appreciate all the upvotes I get and I am looking forward to times where we as a community give not only our upvotes but also our precious time to interact with the posts.
My guess is that since the user base is not that large yet and the community update is not here yet, the chance that the specific posts aligns with a random readers interests are kinda low. Really hoping the communities update changes this.
I don't have much voting power for now but there's something I really have in mind to do.
I want to curate and upvote all new members who registers and create their first post on steemit.
I've come to observe that this is one of the best way to motivate a newbie on steemit.
A newbie reads, blog and earn on steemit and he'll first set up to try it out before even understanding how the platform works. So I think if they see this at first (getting their first content upvoted), they'll want to hang around and at that point learn more about the platform.
I see this bringing in a lot of plenty people with good blogging skills and sustaining people who'll refine their skills too on the platform.
I have the plan to do this and i know I'll do it.
With time we can achieve anything if we put our mind to it
Actually read a similar post a while back, been able to purchase goods/services for the exchange of upvote, for that to be possible a price stabilization as you mentioned upward is needed, nobody would sell or render his/her service(s) only to find out that the value as dropped down considerably before the pay date.
And so many other possibilities out there
Maybe changing the time posts/comments take to payout into 3.5 days instead like the average time that displays the value of your SP and rewards right now could be something that would help these services.
Yes totally agree with that and the services could as well say, make upvote when the post is about to pay out, that way if there should be a drop in price, it won't affect the post/comment payout much
There really are huge possibilities but there needs to be someone with the vision and someone to create it. Normally those two things do not fall under the same person which is why I really like utopia and projects like it.
With that said I really don't get this SMT thing yet it seems to be dead in the water from what I can tell? or someone just spilled the beans way way to early. Is it live? Is anyone using it from what I can tell no one really is but for sure curious where to find out more information.
Its active and being worked on on github at least, so its not really dead in the water at all.
You can never wait too long for something great. ;)
well this is true just seems like announced to early ? where you get overly pumped about a game and it takes 3 more years till it is released lol Good to know though I would love to see this roll out and have adoption if I know new maybe I could add it on my own sites some how? I feel like its maybe not so easy to create and use on your own sites but I could be wrong.
Attracting a beautiful young lady wouldn't be a bad idea 😂
xD
Running some kick ass contests
I'm glad you have raised this issue @acidyo. Inefficiencies with Steemit are often unheard on here. I think the devs should do something about people delegating their voting power. I agree the platform is more about what services you use than "quality content." For me personally, I like to curate good, well thought out articles, and my own comments for contributing to the thread. I believe you need to reward others and yourself, because if you don't, who will? By the way I love your cat gif lol! Steemit could crush all major social media platforms, and we are just in its infancy stage!
And yet you fail to upvote any of the posts that you comment on. You only self vote with 100% of your voting power.
Exactly!
This comment isn't worth 51 cents, acidyo even generously upvotes comments and you still gotta rape it
Haha...nice concept. Never really thought of voting in that regards. If my opinion is sought though, I will say we are still a long way off such development. Steemit itself is still young and so is the blockchain. But I believe it is something that is probable in the nearest future.
For now, I would rather we use our voting power to lure and retaing users unto the platform to promote and hence, increase the value of steem. WHich is why all of us are here.
A lot of people vote for them to be rewarded back.
There are a lot of genuine & rich contents that do not get enough upvote because they don't belong or associated to any group.
People just vote because it's a familiar name without even going through the content.
I hope this would change some day.
Nice one @acidyo.
My vote worth almost nothing. Approximately 0.1 so i cannot do much. If in a magic way or through a delegation i had i serious vote i would use it to upvote every single piece of undiscovered article that is buried. It would be enough for me to see some people get the rewards they deserve. I know that @ocd-resteem or @curie make amazing efforts but it is certain that we need more people to do what they do.You have seen yourself @acidyo crap post being constantly in trending page as you have also seen real diamonds earning just cents.
That is what i would do.
Edit:self vote to comment for visibility(and still not sure it is going to be seen-you get hundreds of comments)
Once I paid a tattoo to a friend through the steem wallet and everything was even simpler than doing it with my national currency; in that moment i understood in my own experience the adventages of the cryptocurrencies in general
Now, what you propose is also interesting: pay for a service through upvotes and in the end it is money paid !! so why not?
obviously the vast majority of people do not have enough steem power to do this type of shopping, so I think this would also be a very good motivation for MANY people to start investing more in STEEM
after rad your post and comment of members I decide to use in a lot of good thing like upvote goode content and supporting projet
That would be awesome to pay for stuff with an upvote. Haha. I'd upvote myself too much food.
I want to create communities. Regardless of whether it's SBD or SP, it's money except for the fact that you can use SP for bandwidth, SMTs and voting power. And right now the one that I'm most interested in is having at least a 0.4 vote. One 0.4 vote a day would pay any Venezuelan the ability to live comfortably in Venezuela. That means rent, food, etc.
I'm very eager to have that vote soon! As soon as possible, because that would help me improve people's lives, and start creating communities around the idea of giving Venezuelans minimum living standards. There is so much misery and people living below these standards that I'm honestly saddened. If Steemit were to give me this possibility, well, I would be super super super thankful. :)
It would be like delivering miracles with an upvote button 😂❤️
i want buy, a glass of orange juice lol
A. I will gather as much Steem Power as I can to distribute my vote across curation and services. Ultimately we all are looking here to make smart investments in the platform and towards the content. We should make as much money as we can and at the same time, maintain the quality of the platform. This can be ensured by two steps. Upvote high quality content and generate high quality content.
Apart from using services that are beneficial for us, we should support other users. This will raise user retention, better Steem price and more money for each one of us. I got my best votes from the people who appreciated my content genuinely. And I also vote people who make posts showing huge effort. In Simple words @acidyo, I want to try everything from my voting power that is there on the offer by Blockchain users.
In my whole life, I couldn't imagine that you could make money by selling your votes or by upvoting kickass content. It amazes me till date buddy!
I feel curating is the best way to go here. Even though people feel it might be less, it has a huge impact on the new users who join the platform and it's within these new users that we get big investors who influence the steem prices to shoot.
Having to walk into a store and pay by upvoting would be nice - quite thoughtful. But are there any added advantages to this? One could easily transfer steem or SBD to such store's account on steemit.
On another note, Its a pity here in my country no one will sell anything to you at hearing that you will be paying through some crypto platform as many have not really accepted this reality.
As steem goes up i feel that I am a bit more influential and I can encourage other people to keep doing a good job when they see the small reward of 0.01 stu (that's my vote).
When the time comes in which a large part of the users could exchange their upvotes for things it would be very innovative and revolutionary but at the same time the community should set certain agreed rules to avoid benefiting spammers or people who do illegal things.
I would like to have more than 50000 SP to support good projects i can see here and try to help some steemians that live in some poor countries and find steemit as a good way to be entrepreneur and support their families. Regards
I'm poor in steem power, if my voting power is 100% too I can't organise any contest as my 100% is worth 0.01$, this is negligible, help me grow people
Really I look forward to supporting a good project and upvoting a good content with my vp
A really wonderful and unique idea of voting
We have to do this
Thank you for your kind information
Your idea is exceptional, i havent really thought about using votes on post to purchase things. Although its a really good idea, it still has along way to go. Would look forward to something like that
I have my project to support with my VP and I will like others to support it too. I will also support other good project too
I totally agree with you my friend. Upvote is worth a fortune and the idea of being able to pay for services with upvotes sounds absolutely amazing to me. Brilliant thinking there my friend
Its true that once SBD decides to stabilize a bit and Steem as well, one will do more. And Voting power should be used to curate and make people happy, especially the minnows
thank you for giving the benifit of curation content. its vary helpful to us.
best of luck my favorite @acidyo
Steem power and steem is the subject of the day in cryptocurrency space many investors are interessed about SP and Steem , maybe in the future we will assist a radical change:)
Do we have a release date for SMTs?
I'm looking forward to giving back to the community, more gaming, and to be able to use my voting power to help document my journey and expedition around the world. Keep up the great work @acidyo.
Maybe voting power can be used for fundraising purposes,where funds can be raised very fast and used to help someone who needs urgent help?
your idea is good.but it's used for purchasing something like plants,foods,bla bla bla
Well, it's only rationale for someone to say he would upvote all his posts and comments with his voting power when he has so much to spare. But what's the actual use of your voting power if you can't use it to help the poor and needy and also put smiles on peoples faces.
I have been in a situation of serious need and was almost broke to the ground and just a few upvotes from people kept me going and so ofcoz if I have such power , I would do same for others.
The latest trend now is deligations. People get to deligate their SP to other communities and projects but I would advice that if only you do not have the time to be a human curator yourself. If the purpose is to help others then it's fine, but if it's just to get rewarded then...dunno what to say.
Never thought of the upvotes though.. I thought you will purchase with Steem and SBD.
Personally, I look forward to encouraging users, especially minnows like me with my votes. I also look forward to selling some votes to earn steem or SBD but these wishes look like a long term plan as my voting weight at the moment is nothing encouraging or substantial enough.
I really like the idea of paying for services with my votes. I think it is a wonderful idea and will birth a wonderful innovation. I can't wait to see this materialize. That I can go shopping just by upvoting a post. It's just phenomenal.
Good job and nice ideas @acidyo.
I agree that the vote must be done by curing the content, it is what we have all learned., We must be on the lookout for the new events
It looks like you have a powerful imagination. Buying a hamburger with vote is a very imaginative idea ;)
Wonderful post, thanks....