Let's make basic question here:
On what basis do you claim ownership of land? The earth is not the property of anyone, how you can dare to steal a part of her?!?
By the way I am now sitting on the piece of land with your house and claim it for me. You are not going to force me away, are you?
I certainly will force you away if I do not wish you to be there. Can I come to the restaurant where you are dining and steal your food after you've paid?
I own my body. Thus, I own the fruits of the labor of this body. If I homestead or acquire land with this body legitimately, it is mine.
Without a system based on the objective reality of self-ownership, chaos ensues.
But when I don't accept this government-made rules?
Don't forget that "homesteading" is a legal construct that is only existent in a few countries. I certainly have never voluntarily agreed to that!!
And again - how can you legitimately acquire land if the land is something that cannot be owned? The earth is owned by no one! Only governments claim that they own it!
To force your view of land ownership on me is the same as what governments do. Where is the difference then? In that case I prefer government who can (at least theoretically) be hold accountable and changed.
Excellent. I'll be at your house tonight to use your stuff, and sleep there. You don't own it, right?
The difference is that the government makes rules not based on the reality of self-ownership. If I am not on my property, I cannot force my rules on you, of course.
I did not agree to your POV, so you don't have the right to put me under your rules.
On what basis do you claim ownership of land? The earth is not the property of anyone, how you can dare to steal a part of her?!?
Don't forget that "homesteading" is a legal construct that is only existent in a few countries. I certainly have never voluntarily agreed to that!!
And again - how can you legitimately acquire land if the land is something that cannot be owned? The earth is owned by no one! Only governments claim that they own it!
please answer those basics
My friend, you are completely misunderstanding what I am saying here. I have no right to put you "under my rules."
However, if you come to my house, and barge in, I have total nature-conferred right to defend myself. You disagree? I do not have the nature-conferred right to defend my body?
My friend, you either are not able to react to my questiosn or are will fully ignoring them. So lets make it very very easy, one question at a time:
On which basis do you put your claim on land that I should respect, if I do not agree with your government-induced "homesteading" legal fiction.
If I, for example, use my body to build a cabin on unowned land, absent a government, you have no nature-conferred right to enter said cabin without invitation.
The reason for this is that you have no right to enter my body, or to aggress against my body. My cabin is a product of my body's labor expended over time. To claim you may also own the cabin is to claim ownership of the labor and time required to build it.
If you disagree with this, logically speaking, I do not need to request permission to enter your house, even if you do not wish me to.
Now I have answered. And now, I would like you to answer my question before we proceed. May I, at any time I wish, even if you do not wish me to, enter your house?
The issue is not about 'owning the earth' or not. The fact is that as physical creatures we must occupy the earth and its fruits to survive. In some cases, conflicts may arise when two or more desire the same portion. Homesteading, and voluntarism are principles whose function is to provide a fair and equal mechanism whereby property may be legitimately acquired and exchanged without resort simply to 'might makes right.' These principles are being offered for acceptance, no one can force another to agree with them. However, it is hoped that if they have any value, they will be accepted toward a less chaotic and violent future
I have learned a thing: if they can take it away, it was never really yours.
The rest is grace.
"The past is history. The future's a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why they call it the present." Eleanore Roosevelt.
I can take away your life...
But please now answer my questions. The stated goal of your post was to clear away misconceptions, so please do clear away mine.
Yeah, you can end my life. What you cannot do is take away the life I have lived. This is the difference. My life lived I do own.
As to the rest of your questions, I agree with you. The way one governs themselves is government. If two people agree to govern themselves according to some rule, they form a mutual government. Government is nothing more than an agreement.
I am not aware of any misconceptions that may be obscuring your vision.
caveat: I am merely a fellow commenter, not the OP