Anarchism vs Anarchocapitalism vs Anarchocommunism

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Anarchism comes from the Greek words: ‘’an’’ (without) and ‘’archos’’, (i.e. leader, ruler) or archon (i.e. "authority", "sovereignty", "realm", "magistracy") and suffix -ism. Anarchist comes from the Greek word ‘’Anarchos’’ which means ‘’one without rulers’’. Anarchism therefore is the opposition and abolition of authorities or rulers (the biggest source of these being the state). That is the ONLY definition, words cant mean whatever one wishes them to mean, and etymology provides an objective way to determine Anarchism’s true origin and meaning. ‘’one without rulers’’. So no matter what other definitions one may claim to have of anarchism it is only that; nothing more, nothing less. Anarchism does not define economic models nor conflict resolution. (The NAP is not inherent to anarchism, but perhaps compatible, stop mixing up the two.)

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CRITICISM OF ANARCOCAPITALISTS AND THEIR AUTHORITARIAN FALACIES:

A. Private laws, militias, judges, police.

Many (not all) Ancaps, including some Agorists, and Mutualists advocate private companies to act as police, judges and militias and enforce their authority on individuals who are ''supposed'' to hire their own police and judges. These private law firms either have to duke it out or let the market figure out conflict resolution between firms. That is facism, private statism. I call it ebay statism. The highest bidder gets to buy authority over others. Not all ancaps advocate this, I’d say 50%, a substantial figure. Who you trow your money at is your problem until you try to pay to enforce rules over me or others.

B. Ownership of land.

It is illogical for someone to claim ownership of a planet or a moon, right? He dint create it, he just happened to make a claim on it. Likewise, it is illogical and evil to attempt to control land that one does not use or possess. Land possession, advocated by Individualist Anarchists, is moral and logical, not land ownership. Why? If you don’t use/occupy/possess a piece of land then you have no authority to prevent others from doing so. Preventing others from using land you do not use is evil. In Anarcocapitalism, land is ''owned'' by homesteading or subsequent transfer; the claim is that by putting in some labor into a piece of land one somehow owns it. Then they can hire laborers, exploit them and go ''homestead'' another piece of land elsewhere. The problem is that under this model of ’’land ownership’’, land is easily monopolized and is it entirely possible for one individual or corporation to ''own'' all the land: they simply have to purchase ‘’claimed’’ lands. Making other humans rent slaves because all land has been ‘’claimed’’ long ago. In the past we called this feudalism. Today its called private land ownership. A piece of unoccupied land is claimed to be owned by individuals who paid a fee to the local mafia (the state), to other individuals, or whose ancestors ‘’claimed’’ large extensions of land long ago. Under that system every newborn human doesn’t have the right to provide for himself food nor shelter nor become independent because one must pay others for using land. Obviously at a certain point in time all the land in a region has been claimed, even if there are hundreds of thousands of unoccupied/free acres. Whether it is in the city or in the middle of a forest every square meter of land has been claimed or at some point in time will be. Another flaw with the ''homesteading'' model is that no one can own the planet; no one put in labor and created the land they claim to own. If you add value by working on the land, you can own whatever you produced from it like mining or farming or others, but it doesn’t not give you a ‘’right’’ to the land or planet itself. Hoarding land is evil. As tridimensional land mammals we require a 3D space just to exist. It is physically impossible for two 3D beings to occupy and use the same volume of space or land; therefore, it’s necessary for individuals to occupy different pieces of land. As a final point all human activities depend upon land, therefore freedom and anarchy is impossible without free access to land.

CRITICISM OF ANARCOCOMMUNISTS AND THEIR AUTHORITARIAN FALACIES:

A. Abolition of private ownership of goods and capital (excluding land): Ancoms are against individuals owning goods that create other goods (capital) so under that logic, private ownership and renting of plows, knives, sewing threads, a blender are evil. That is ridiculous. Ultimately how do ancoms propose to ''abolish capital''? How do they propose to prevent me from owning or renting capital (not land)? How can they prevent me from selling my labor or buying others labor. The only way is violence. Enforcing their ''authority'' over me. So i cannot trust ancoms.

B. Abolition of wage salary: most employment in this statist world is exploitation, but the mere act of selling or buying labor and services is not evil and is not exploitation. Wage Salary is not inherently evil. Again, how would they act against an anarchist that hires his neighbor? The only physical way to prevent it is through force. What if I want to tutor my neighbor and get paid for it; Im selling/buying labor but Im not harming anyone nor exercising authority over them. Extend that logic to other scenarios and ancoms have no grounds to ‘’abolish’’ wages.

C. Equality: There is no such thing as equality in the real world, neither of opportunity nor of outcome. Each individual will have different access to opportunities, knowledge, genetics, talents, support from family and Friends (some might be orphans, have zero support), Access to different geographical terrains, etc (we can’t all have a piece of land next to a body of water). It is physically impossible, and is evil, to force equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. Ultimately, none of that is necessary to abolish authoritarianism, rulers, statism and establish freedom. Freedom and anarchy is possible without equality, its completely independent from it. Equality is irrelevant to freedom. However, it is recommended to empower individuals to prevent power gaps that could lead to sources of control and authority. Voluntary hierarchies are also discouraged for the same reason. A voluntary leader with too much power over to his peers could easily become authoritarian. Note to voluntarists: The whole notion of voluntary hierarchies, voluntary submission to others, is stupid to individualists. Submission is weakness.

CRITICISM OF ANCOMS & ANCAPS:

Both groups fear the chaos and non-organization of Anarchy and the lack of economic, defensive, protective, and social safe nets that the state and their models supposedly provide. In my opinion their supporters are inferior to real anarchists becuase they would rather sacrifice REAL anarchy for ‘’security’’ and ‘’order’’. There are no ‘’rules’’ in an anarchy other than obviously abolition of authority and rulers and the logical extensions of these; such as, killing an innocent person is enforcing your control over their life (authority). Many Ancaps and ancoms would rather control others through ‘’abolishing capital’’ or ‘’private law’’ to provide ''stability'', ''security'' and ''order''; rather than risk living in a chaotic anarchy. Anarchy IS Chaos. Chaos and disorganization are NOT inherently evil. Chaos is not necessarily everyone murdering and raping each other, Chaos is merely the absence of control. This is a GOOD thing. Think of chaos as randomness and unpredictability due to lack of control over humans. People fear not having control over their fellow human because they could possibly get robbed or harmed. Those who are inferior or brainwashed resort to controlling their neighbors’ actions in an attempt to produce a false sense of security at the cost of everyone’s freedom. I will not discuss human nature and motivation here; but I argue that in total chaos (total lack of control or authority over people) humans would NOT start murdering and raping each other at a higher rate than in an authoritarian world. I would prefer running the risk of getting harmed in a free chaotic world than deny freedom to myself or others. Therefore I believe ancoms and ancaps score significantly lower on the ‘’freedom scale’’. People who deny my freedom because they fear chaos are inferior pieces of shit. That applies mostly to statists but possibly to minarchists masquerading as ancoms/ancaps. I invite the reader to research Anarchism and Individualist Anarchism.

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I invite you to get your data about an-coms from the secondary source:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-berkman-what-is-communist-anarchism

Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.

Working for a capitalist is voluntary. There is no crime, there is no oppression if you chose that. In an anarchy one could choose to work for no one or even set up a cooperative. Now i argue in a statist world working for others is not volutary we are not allowed to provide for ourselves nor transact buisness freely.

Working for a capitalist is voluntary.

Hunger makes it mandatory for the largest percentage of the population.
Yes, people can exist outside the crapitalust paradigm.
No, it is not an option for the majority.

In an anarchy one could choose to work for no one or even set up a cooperative.

Under anarchism, if you become known as a bum you are not gonna like what happens next.

Now i argue in a statist world working for others is not volutary we are not allowed to provide for ourselves nor transact buisness freely.

Very true, who finances the state?
Crapitalusts.
The state, as we know it, could not exist in a voluntary society.

thanks, i read chapter one. it is kinda long.

Well, that is the funny thing about knowledge, there is a lot of it, and it takes time and effort to acquire.
But if you want to be a credible know it all, and not a blow hard, it is the sacrifice one has to make, imo.

Take your time, it's your freedom that you are seeking.

i know i know its just my eyes hurt reading on the computer i need a kindle. really.

They got tablets for very little, they can read pdfs.

So from what i partially understood was that ancoms want the workers to own all the fruits of their labor, so like anarchosindicalism. The problem is see is decision making, worker owned factories are usually democratic so if i disagree and am the minority im screwed. Thats why i would have to fork off and produce my own organization and make it NOT democratic to prevent the same thing. I believe all the issues communists have with capitalism will be erased when the state is erased. And i dont mean to belittle you or ancoms but i have lived in the real world quite some time and had seem the worst of both capitalism and small communes, worker assosiations and villaegers asociations in south america. They just dont work nor provide individual freedom. An indigienous commune wants a town party to get drunk and demands all the farmers to give money. Or they have town meetings and make decision for me. As an individualist i dont want group decision making, and private ownership of goods provides the best framework for me to do so.

Look, the reports of what an-coms are doing often differs from the reality.

If you get caught up in the whos and hows, but lose site of the goal, you will never reach the ideal.
Each of us is responsible for replacing what we consume from the work of others.
That is easiest done by mass production.
Absent banksters and crapitalusts we do that on a local level that is easy to manage.
Here is short novel from 1887 that illustrates it pretty well:
Looking Backwards by Ed Bellamy

If you don't support killing to control, that is what is important.

lived in the real world quite some time and had seem the worst of both capitalism and small communes, worker assosiations and villaegers asociations in south america.

Sure, when it is use it or lose it, they want to use it.
Communism and crapitalism are mutually exclusive, they cannot coexist in harmony, only separately.
It will take the workers waking to their power to change this paradigm.
The Monkey Master Fable by Liu Ju

ok wait. i dont support killing to control. but i dont see how the private ownership of the means of production inherently kills. I do see how the marriage of state and corporate power kills. Besides maybe your sindicalism factories might be more efficient and out compete private ones since there is no profit (which means sell products for less). but i mean what if i want to sell or buy labor since that is WAY easier to do then cooperate whichout exchanging money. Im all for voluntary cooperation but in my experience people want money for their time, not future promises.

i dont see how the private ownership of the means of production inherently kills.

By denying it to all others at all costs.
If I need some food, crapitalism says I have to first be exploited for my labor, and if my labor has no value in the market then I can just starve.

Granny needs her lawn mowed.
She can't do it, she is 80.
You agree to do it for $3.
Granny can make and market a dress for $3.
Aren't you proud?
You made granny get a job, rather than helping the old lady out.

Im all for voluntary cooperation but in my experience people want money for their time, not future promises

Well, I don't know how more immediate we can make it than next Tuesday.
On any given Tuesday we can switch paradigms and everything is free from that point on, all we have to do is convince the workers to keep going to work, and/or become ones ourselves.

The folks between 20 and 50 can carry this world, and all it's consumptions, on a work week of about 20 hours with a lifetime cap at 20,000 hours.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

Besides i think all communists forget that self suficiency is posible. You technically can produce your own goods without ever purchasing from others therefore theres nothing to replace. Like you make it seem as there are only two options: wage slavery or communism. But there is a third self sufficiency, dont hire anyone and make your tools from scratch. no one put in labor into nature. It all comes down to either natural goods (no imput of labor) belong to everyone or belong to no one. I claim no one owns what they did no put in labor to produce.

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