Hello Stellabelle,
I have to disagree about @misbenkito ( If I don't want people to know where I am from I would write I am from Europe.. Not I am from France) So a Korean or Chinese or Japanese not wanting you to know her identity would of course use the term I am Asian.
And I strongly dis-agree with this You have to make an introduction post. I ano not planning to do an introduction post, as I like my privacy and don't want the whole internet so know my real identity. (especially as everything is in the blockchain here)
But thanks for the Article, I had missed Yogi's epic post about mrs. takings!
@knozaki2015 thank you so much for protecting me, I do not think that I'm "that' famous to be mentioned here lol. I am an Asian and I'd love to eat, I think it's fair enough since I dont really want to show my identity to the whole world, why must I? Its funny article @stellabelle, I have nothing to explain but one word "you're FUNNY" :D
how about doing the standard holding up a steemit sign like all the other newbies are forced to do?
I have to ask you, why MUST I? You dont have the right to ask me to do that sign, i dont have an introduce myself post because I just dont want to (im not that kind of person who says much about herself in pubilc), im here just to express my food passion to foodholics just like me. And Im very happy that I had a chance to know some great food reporters here, for example @knozaki2015. Please dont mention my name as A ROBOt, and english is not my mother language, therefore sometimes it becomes "weird" (as you say), but its not my fault lol. I will try to improve my english so that it's not weird anymore, is it okay ?
Once again, we're not forced to prove ourselves here, Its up to us whether we want to show who we are. Some people claimed that they are someone famous, these people may have to write that "steemit sign", Im not claiming anything but only "i love food, i am an asian" so why must I have to post my picture if I dont want to???
@mibenkito I don't see any need for you to verify yourself here and the way you've given justifications feels wrong IMO. I don't agree with what's happened here!
that's exactly the point. why would anybody have to hold this sign and show their faces?
You are doing secret writer posts for people who want / need to stay anonymous, yet you ask someone to reveal their identity.
If you didn't hear, "asians" are very shy ( at least that;s my experience living over 30years in asia)
And I didn't know that newbie are forced to do an introduction post. what a scandal ;)
LOL thank you so much @b0y2k for helping me to verify myself and clear the air here. I really appreciate it :))
you forgot the date and the "Im" is definitely weird, you must be a bot of some kind...
Those "verification" photo makes sense only if you are known before registering to steemit and want to capitalize on your fame... aside from that... nobody cares, I didn't post a photo holding a sign have no intention of doing it... ever
@b0y2k, where is your verification? Why should we trust you?
LOL
dude leave people alone
How about you stop harassing users to hold up pointless signs? Thanks.
Dude you can do better. Thanks.
I never held up a sign, and nobody has ever once questioned my personhood or my claimed identity.
https://steemit.com/corporate-identity/@cass/sneak-preview-chainsquad-corporate-branding-logo-design#@logic/re-cass-sneak-preview-chainsquad-corporate-branding-logo-design-20160910t163149713z
:P just a few days before .. i was asked to make an identify post with holding logo (kinda funny)
force?
I never held up a sign either.
The holding up a sign thing is worse than useless. Just pay a model $5 to do it. If we need to authenticate people vs whatever, then have them validate against their other social media account.
It's about content. It doesn't matter who specifically the author is. If you really feel like someone is being overpaid, let the whales know and ask them why they are paying this much for bad content.
No one is forced to do that :P
lol no one is forced to verify anything, I thought that has been obvious since the start and a big part of decentralization. Even in my post that I created as a newbie here I made it clear no one has to verify their account, but if they want to and gain trust that way as a user of the platform, then my post would help them how to properly do it.
Were you forced to post your phone number on a public slack channel?
I never exactly said that you were AI. I merely stated that your English varies from advanced to low. The writing style of the comments seems to be different from the tone of the posts. This could be for any number of reasons. I was hoping you could clear all this up with a verfified account, like Twitter, or point to some identity. By refusing to do what is asked of all Steemit users upon entering in the beginning, it seems that you're unwilling to follow protocol, which breeds suspicion. It's so easy to get this cleared up. Everyone else has to verfiy that they are a real person. That is all you need to do.
Im sorry I will not do it just because you say people're FORCED to do. Im not forced to do anything, unless I'm willing to do it. Look around and you'll see, not all the steemians post that 'steemit board". Its your business to raise suspicion, i dont mind, Im happy to be myself and Im happy that I can express my love for cuisine here and get encouragement from other people. Why do you mention my name under the title "aritificial intelligence" if you're not implying that Im a robot? A robot can make a response like that ? I dont think so. Once again, you're very very funny girl. End of the conversation, thank you very much for making me "well-known" in a FUNNY way, I appreciate that ^^
I forgot what the word, "milled" means. can you explain it?
As you can see, Steemit is overrun by bots, auto-voting bots, AI and scammers. Linking your real other account or doing as others have been asked to do would immediately clear up the possibility of deception. I've never actually run across anyone unwilling to prove that they are a real person. Most people have no problem with this request.
Wouldn't even slow the bots down. What it would mean is that people who do not have other social media accounts and have no desire to dox ourselves or be doxxed would just go somewhere else.
Problem ain't bots. Bots are owned by people, they don't just "exist". They have a cost to acquire and a cost to maintain. This cost has to be less than the bot will earn for it's owner.
People will use bots because they are a force multiplier. To stop the bots you need to change the incentives so low value tasks aren't rewarded enough to cover the cost. But neither msgivings nor mibenkito are bots.
Not sure I would even put these two in the same category and I have more reason than most to hate msgivings.
Actually that is two words.
Why not do a verification talking or a picture with your face blurred? I feel that people should be able to vote as they wish, but accounts without a verification should not (in my opinion receive rewards as high as those with).
How can you think that things can be solved just by a blurred picture? And what for? By making responses to this article and all the funny conments she wrote, I've shown myself enough to prove that I'm not a robot nor AI. Is that all we need here? Why keep demanding me to show my face? MAYBE I am too ugly, so it is quite embarassing to do that "verify yourself thing" ? Or if I want to hide myself, I can hire a model to pose with that steemit board and post it here, who will even know that it's me or not? It's all about "willingness" my friend, and in this situation I demand to keep my identity and my images 😊
I find it odd that someone would offer up their name, but yet want to remain anonymous. That seems contradictory, actually.
I think that 90% of the users are using a nickname, you, me, mibenkito. Or is your name really stella? I didn't know that. I am very careful online, I don't want my picture or my real name being displayed in any site where the public can easily access it...
we had a similar situation last time with a whale downvoting a user, because her username was tanja, but she signed her closing with julia. the whale downvoted with the reason " suspicious, why are you using a username tanja, when your real name is julia"
some user than pointed out that the whale is using a fictious name, and they asked him if his name was XXXXX, after that debate the wale removed the flag, but still I don't understand why anybody has to reveal their real identity here.
If in the future you have to do a KYC for payouts, that would be ok, but being forced to reveal my identity to other users would drive me away from this platform.
I started hiding my identity a long time ago, as I knew if i put one picture of my face into a social network, I am doomed.
Snowden, Wikileaks, anybody not trying to keep their identity hidden while being online is a fool in my eyes. (of course I am aware, that since I am travelling many countries have a picture of me, that i can't avoid, but I can and I have decided that my own privacy is precious to me.
Welcome to the age where privacy is no longer TOLERATED ...
yeah that discussion is kinda ridiculous, why anyone would put his real name or identity in here or elsewhere on the net. (each time I look at facebook, I am just like "OMG what the fuck are they doing ?!" LOL
on the topic, I am not surprised that some bots can "write" (well probably just put together, an article or else from piece found elsewhere) also few months ago I had a discussion on skype with a bot wanting me to watch her sex cam).
Should we be afraid of that ? Well on this site most of the voting is already done by bots, so where is the problem if they also write article ?
I do agree with you. But we also have the right to be suspicious, yet most won't/are not resolved by a "introduce yourself" thingie. No, what we need is communication. And also, some people will believe whatever they want to believe :)
agree my friend. at least mibenkito is answering comments.
AI won't comment ;)
"Hello Steemians, my name is Miki."
What if miki is also a nickname? :D you should definitely stalk other accounts too, i came across some with even weirder "english", just like they are using google translate or there might be a robot typing behind. If you have time, we might need to look really carefully into it, lets find out the robots on steemit and bring them down lol
AH OK, I didn't see that! thanks !
Well Miki is a Japanese name, but I am 100% certain that she is not Japanese. She won't be korean either, as a korean girl would not chose a japanese name as her nickname.
If you have lived long enough in asia, you will know that Chinese, Hongkong Chinese, Taiwanese will use a "foreign name" and their real name.
I met so many chinese and they said "My name is Peter" after asking them Peter? they told me their real name, which was unpronounceable.
So reading and analyzing her travel pattern, I would assume that she is not Vietnamese nor Hongkong Chinese. A Hongkong Chinese would not go to a Michelin Star Restaurant, but to a more local restaurant.
From her skin color I would rule out Thailand, Vietnam and Kambodcha.
I would guess that she is Taiwanese or Chinese (probably Taiwanese).
Taiwan would fit, as Taiwanese are real foodies.
Btw. from her clothes and seing a wedding ring on her hand, I would guess that Mibenkito is between 28-35 years old. ...
I am not sure if I am right, but I just wanted to show you, that giving up too much information in your blogpost will eventually expose your real identity. Someone with better analytical skills than mine, and if mibenkito posted another 50 blog posts, going through them, I am sure her nationaly will be exposed at one point...
Agree with you there's no way shes Japanese... she definitely wouldn't say "Asian"... in fact, having taken 6 semesters of Japanese in college and lived there for 10 months, I'm not even 100% certain that there is a Japanese word for Asian like an asian person.. ajia-jin?
ANyway, here's my guess: Filipino
1.Her Asia travel: HK, and vietnam are the two closest major destinations to the Philippines . Also, no Japan trips yet (despite a clear fondness for Japanese food), which makes me think shes not as close to japan.
2.She got her bachelors degree in Australia. Taiwan has a ton of higher education. The Philippines, not so much. Obviously, its not impossible for a taiwanese to study abroad all four years, but it seems like something more likely to happen
3.The following quote fits with Filipino two ways "Egg pudding with durian sauce: The egg pudding is similar to flan pudding". The Philippines is one of those countries thats "into" durian, and she assumes that flan would be a familiar basis of comparison.
4.She seems to enjoy heavier food than the typical asian fare. Flour based pastries (like cupcakes) beef pork even a steak. (of course, 4 yuears in australia and a lot of travelilng could be responsible for that)
5.In addition to being a japanese name, miki is a type of Filipino noodle.
See i would never be able to have all this fun speculating if she spoiled the mystery from the get go.
Haha I've just seen your comment and it is very interesting to read. My identity will be revealed sooner or later if you follow me and read my upcoming entries. Thank you so much for your comment <3
I think we should all go to Dragon beach in California it is good surfing according to google translate.
I would have to agree with the anonymity premise. Not because I am somehow afraid to admit who I am, but because I don’t think this is relevant. In fact, when I joined Steemit I didn't even know I was supposed to introduce myself. Eventually, I made my intro, but not because I was forced by some rule, but because I thought it would make my posts more noticeable. Also my intro doesn't show me standing with Steemit slogan. https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@mgaft1/neither-left-nor-write-breainer
We are a virtual community here and I should be judged on our ideas and writing style rather than on how we look like or what our position in the outside world is.
Also, who cares where I psychically live? For all I care a person could write from prison in Congo and if their writing style is good and the content is interesting, the more power to them. I am an introvert and, most of the time, I live in my head anyhow.
When it comes to AI surely this is an interesting problem. I remember even posting a response to misgivings. However, I feel the fault of this sin lies entirely on me. I did this by my free choice and if I couldn’t decipher a machine from a human then it’s a shame on me.
I can't agree more :)
stella, did you see this picture? you can actually see that this is an asian... yes face is not visible, but I would bet a dorian dessert with you, that these are not dyed hair, but natural asian hair...
Stella actually thinks that a robot can make delicious cupcakes and hand out Steemit flyers on the street @knozaki2015 :D
No, she just said that your english is very good in your posts, but in your comments your english is soso.
I would assume that you get your posts proof read by someone, or have them checked in a tool like grammerly?
@knozaki2015 i proof read it myself but sometimes i ran out of time so... I promise I will make it more professional and less weird next time :( and you know, i graduated long time ago, then came back to my country, from that time I did not use any english, so I forgot A LOT. In conclusion, we do need to carefully proof read our post before making it public, I see :(
I think her concerns may have to do with the fact that some of your posts are well written with proper punctuation/capitalization and flow easily while other posts are not only riddled with errors but sound quite different. The "narrative voice" of your posts is far from consistent. Does your husband write some of them?
So, what would you suggest moving forward when we suspect the next AI account? Usually, people have some sort of other account like Twitter to verify that they are a real person. What would you suggest the next time an AI account takes over the trending pages?
I use my author name. I am a professional writer, so it makes sense to use my author identity.
I never claimed this account to be AI, I merely think the writing is very odd. I was curious who this person was, behind all the "i love food" persona. People generally like many things. That's what makes us human...... It has the feel of being manufactured, that's all. I might not be right about it, and I never claimed it was one thing or another. Something just doesn't seem right about it. That's all. I was hoping to get my doubts cleared up in a real, tangible way, but apparently that's not happening. I read a lot. And like I mentioned, I lived in Asia, too as an English teacher. I'm very familiar with non-native English writing, and these posts don't feel like non-native English. They feel somehow manipulated in some way. That's my honest, gut feelings. But I'm only human, so there's potential that I may be incorrect.
'I never claimed this account to be an AI.'
Stella - your headline reads: 'Artificial Intelligence Has Made $16,000+ In Blogging Rewards.'
You go on to say: 'These comments surfaced in response to posts by the AI @msgivings account.'
And also: 'By this point, I suppose many of you realize that the account of @msgivings was not run by a human, but rather by artificial intelligence.'
YOU CLEARLY DO CLAIM THIS ACCOUNT TO BE AN AI ...
Yes you are totally incorrect, thats the only thing I can say :))