I reported this account earlier, it's really frustrating there is really nothing that can be done. No one wants to sacrifice their stake, and no one should have to sacrifice their rewards to police Steemit. Steemcleaners doesn't have the resources or tools to scale with the abuse.
There are a lot of these type of things going on, every time I find another I get more jaded about the whole thing.
I think we have to do more than report it. We have to flag it.
If we really care about STEEM, then our actions (not our reports or our words) will reflect that. We'll sacrifice some curation rewards and some rewards we would have liked to see authors we support receive because we care about the long-term value potential here.
It's not someone else's job.
It's our job.
I think that one of the problems is that minnows are afraid that downvoting this crap will make them a target, so they prefer to have somebody to report it to instead. Somebody with the firepower to stand up and hold their ground.
I have more resources than the average newcomer, but I still hesitate to declare war on any account with more firepower than me. On the other hand, I don't hesitate to provide coaching and the occasional flag when it's a smaller account.
Totally agree on this one. I have down voted some post in YouTube before if I don't like it due to I think their content is bad (I am no expert but that is my opinion). However, as this barely affect the author or myself as I can not be a target, I can practically do what I want (feels right).
Here even if I find a post disturbing, wrong, or rude I am scared of flagging it as he or his followers will down vote what little rewards I can get in this platform.
I and I think most minnows already have a hard time creating content and trying to be active, getting entangled in a Steem war would probably too much...
What Bernie does isn't my concern. I am not him. There is a difference between upvoting oneself $50-200/day and being upvoted for $382 10 times/day. The jury is out if self-voting is really bad. When someone getting 5+ posts on trending a day for around $15k USD/day, it is the entire community's responsibility to look into it.
Many believe one is free to use their stake as they please if you have a large amount of stake and want to upvote yourself, by all means, but to do it 10+ times a day for $300-400 is just insanity. It's a reward pool we all share, only 64K Steem is generated per day, and if one person takes a large portion of it, then it is a problem.
Looking at @haejin's payouts, he set to take around $15K+ USD/day per day. The total reward pool has a rough USD value of $192K/day @ $3 Steem. Let's say it was only $10K, that's still 5.2% of the total Steem Value generated a day, but more realistically larger (7.8%). So even though the % from Steem.supply was inaccurate purely on a STEEM production point of view, when you factor in USD value of SBD it is actually pretty close to what it is in reality.
It literally only matters to whales. They get all the rewards from the pool, not the minnows. All the flags in a month return about ~5% of the rewards to the pool. There isn't a minnow on the platform that should breathe hard for a 5% increase in their largely illusory rewards.
The best thing for the platform, IMHO, would be a continuous, evenly matched, flagwar between all whales.
The minnows would have a chance at rewards. The platform would have a reason to grow, and retention would skyrocket.
Even the flaggots would make money, as the capital gains made them more wealthy than their wildest dreams.
The most likely consequence of the incessant mining of rewards into the accounts that have the most Steem, is the value of Steem going to zero, sooner or later. Whenever the stream of new accounts dries up, and new influx of n00bs isn't available to offset the loss of those that give up.
Quality posts have earned @haejins payouts, that is why it amounts to so much- His actual followers (NOT unfair BOTS like Bsanders has) are giving him the upvotes he deserves. The problem with chasing the best bloggers away and intimidating their followers is that it disincentivises the better bloggers to compete and post the best content -and then they go elsewhere, which is actually bad for STEEM.
When there is the ability to create a massive bot army with million $SP value to downvote the better bloggers and then upvote themselves into trending, this is the worst use of the STEEM Platform. They are confusing people from Steem into thinking that people like @haejin are the problem (using scare tactics/terms like "rewardpoolrape" further exacerbates the problem), when it is actually the massive army with over 1ML steempower manipulating everyone into giving them more SP- You did a good job of figuring out @haejins earnings...But why not try and tackle the much bigger task of following the money the berniesadners bot army, and see how they make the most money of all ??? They are pulling the biggest scheme of all, right in front of everyone- accumulating more SP from the unsuspecting masses with their appeals to combat "reward pool rape" - Give me a break, thats right out of the playbook!.
And I am serious about tracking down the depth of that rabbit hole. I dont think anyone has successfully done it yet, because many don't have the time, and most don't even recognize that its happening. Figuring out just how much bsanders makes in a day from the unsuspecting will require figuring out how many are actually his own accounts (rand0whale?), and how the SP is used to accumulate more for the BernieS. collective.
I am not defending anyone, my discussion was about @haejin and you want to keep deflecting to someone. I do know for a fact @berniesanders sacrifices a shit ton of stake on a daily basis to flag spammers and scammers that no one else wants to take action on.
I provided all the math, feel free to provide your own.
Yes, and you know that. I'm going to guess you have no clue what one is though.
The more I look into @haejin, the fishier it gets. You have hundreds of new users flagging people with no stake and no understanding how Steem works. Yet they know enough to create bots that automate mass voting.
There are pages and pages of this.
Im sorry but he is fooling you if you truly think his "sacrifices" amount to more than his net daily earnings- how do you think he has accumulated over 1ML steempower??
Because he was one of the early miners who took a big gamble and went all in on Steem.
Try instead...gaming the platform in his favor and accumulating millions of steem by shilling , lying, manipulating and stealing with a sockpuppet shill/bot army.
It isn't a witness's job to downvote self-votes, self-votes are not against the rules. In fact Steemit defaults to "Upvote Post" when creating a new post.
@berniesanders rewards:
@haejin rewards:
Bernie is a whale, Haejin is not, so he should be getting more rewards, and he isn't even remotely close. Haejin also has been downvoted a lot and hasn't been posting nearly as much, so the numbers would be many times higher (500%-1000% higher) if it continued on.
Yet @berniesanders rewards aren't even remotely close to @haejin's rewards.
Because you haven't or can't do the math. I have provided all my math and presented facts, not made up bullshit or attacks which is all you are capable of doing.
It's been fun, but I rather stick my finger in a light socket than continue to waste time talking to a wall.
Shouldn't rewards be based on quality content more so than how rich you are??
You aren't adding the bot army in, on either side.
As a result it's impossible to ascertain the actual rewards going to either party.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@themarkymark/you-are-not-entitled-to-an-audience-you-need-to-earn-it
I am trying to figure out how you really feel- Do you have any association with Bernie? Curious now, because your blogpost would seem to be very much supportive of @haejin, and yet you invested quite a bit of time into justifying why a bot army should have earned more for being a whale than someone who actually has a legitimate following and has earned their upvotes??!!...
Noooo, that is not true, look to the bot army... he owns them...How does the mafia work and accumulate money but through the work of the henchmen, lol? #followthewhiterabbit !
i think I just made you visible again with my upvote?- I am finding that the only people who make legit comments (and who are not part of the Bsanders troll team) have had their comments made invisible- So i just look for those. Bsanders group have 100% gamed this platform with a massive sockpuppet shill-bot organization, making millions actually- Markmark has exposed himself more than once (although poor thing doesn't realize it) Same as krysec, who attempts to make informative posts that skew opinion in favor of randowhle and B sanders.