STEEM Rant #1: Myths About Flagging & the Reward Pool

in #abuse7 years ago (edited)


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What I Discuss in this Vlog

  • You know those days when your post values drop but the STEEM price didn't? That happens because of reward pool abuse. If your post payouts didn't decrease today you should thank a flagger.

  • Massive thanks to all who fight reward pool abuse, you care about the STEEM blockchain more than anyone else here! You sacrifice your potential rewards, your voting power and your reputations all to help this place succeed beyond our wildest imaginations. You have the most thankless job of all, in fact more often than not other users outright hate you. I honour you! You are needed and you Matter.

  • Hundreds of STEEM users bravely disagree with @haejin's potential rewards, if you believe the lie that it's just "Bernie and his Bots" please check the link below out, they are real people, with real accounts, many have really high reputations, and all are saying "No More". CLICK HERE TO SEE THE HUNDREDS OF STEEMIANS WHO ARE BRAVE ENOUGH TO DOWNVOTE @HAEJIN

  • STEEM is very new, it will take time to organize, and solve these issues. I have complete faith in the brilliant minds who are coming together to end reward pool abuse, and certainly some very powerful solutions have emerged already.

Ok Lyndsay, nice vlog but I still don't want to risk my account by flagging, is there any other way I can help?

Yes, There Is!

You can delegate any amount of STEEM POWER to either @flagthedonkey or @weflaghaejin. Both accounts are run by @hendrix22 and you can go to their https://steemworld.org/ pages to verify that all they do is flag @haejin. Learn how to delegate the easy way here >>> How To Delegate Steem Power The Easy Way!

Delegating still makes me feel yucky inside, but I really want to help. Is there any other actions I can take?

Yes, There Is!

You can go to the list I linked above and upvote posts authored by any of the hundreds of STEEM users who are risking their accounts by being reward pool saviours, I'll give it to you again HERE.

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So flagging is good. How does this mechanic work with @burnpost though? Doesn't this concept work against that?

Burnposts are great for the health of this ecosystem too!

Hmmm... You know I love you honey. I am tired of "this" between us, so I am telling you what I have seen. All I know is what I know, ya' know? I came to steemit cold, did not know anyone. The first thing I tried was entering contests and the first contest I entered happened to be run by an old political ally. Not just any ally, someone who had been just randomly kind and generous to me. This guy:


I had actually decided to use my old screenname on the off chance of running into some people from that website, and that was the FIRST person I ran into here. I considered that a message from the Universe. He had been suffering then, just suffered a serious concussion. Since I knew him, he had suffered several more, 3 or 4. He had changed a little, he was more child-like I would say. Still a caring, giving soul - he gave me $25 SBD just as a welcoming gift. He was (and is) brilliant intellectually but he had suffered socially. He had several serious problems and he was on steemit doing a lot of digital art and photography, but he was way into crypto, and he is a developer / coder kind of guy. He started following haejin and made bank. He did very, very well following haejin's advice so he started supporting haejin and so became a target of berniesanders. I made one attempt to ask bernie to try to be more positive, to remember there are real people out here. Bernie threatened to destroy my account.
So, I love you, I love how you stand up for Palestine and peace and love, but honey... I just don't see eye to eye with you on this one. Haejin has never done anything for or against me and frankly as a rape survivor I get tired of hearing about "reward pool" rape. Is it going to cry itself to sleep for weeks wondering if it is pregnant? Will its parents kick it to the curb for having a baby out of wedlock? Sorry, but I am spitting it all out, because this has been eating at me for a long time. I have never seen bernie do anything kind, he has run my very kind friend off this platform with his ruthless and misdirected harassment and he has threatened to destroy my account for asking him to try using kindness rather than hatred.
There, it is what it is. Love you.

I don't expect to change your mind, however I will respond for the popcorn eaters.

  • All the coins were going crazy, if you would have invested in anything you would have made money during that time.

  • Disliking Bernie should not mean anything in this. As I said in my vlog and post, there are hundreds and hundreds of Steemians downvoting posts. We are all doing this for our own reasons too and you'd be surprised if you scrolled that list in the variety of people downvoting.

  • @haejin's accuracy has been tracked for the last 48 days.

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Haejin Portfolio - Day 48 By @truthtrader.

It is not about liking or not liking bernie, it is that I see him out actively being hateful to people, including myself.
And it is about yelling "rape" all over this platform when I know I am not the only actual survivor of rape. It is a pretty shitty analogy that is disrespectful as fuck of rape survivors. But whatever.

Did you even watch my video @fishyculture? I don't think you did.

Did you like how haejin's alt account starjuno gave you that upvote, and he himself downvoted my comment here and to my response to my mother in law as well. Do you know that he has taken more money off of my posts than anyone else that he flags in the last 3 weeks? Around 1,000 dollars now off of my posts. Do you know that he waits until minutes before payout before he flags my posts with his -90$ flag? Literally this guy stalks me. But it's cool, cause I should just keep my mouth shut about his abuse of this platform right?

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Honey, I do not know who has what accounts. And no, I did not watch the video and I told you why, if you paid attention. Every time someone says "rape" I remember. I do not melt down or have flashbacks ANY MORE but I have been through all that. Every time I hear "reward pool rape" I get pissed off. I am trying REALLY hard not to just be pissed at you because I KNOW you have a beautiful heart but I do not want to watch you go on about "reward pool rape." I just do NOT put myself through that.
I do not give a shit about bernie or haejin or grumpycat and there gazillion accounts, I think they are all assholes and wish they would go away. What bothers me is all the people playing into their drama. I ignore it all best I can, then I see you saying I am a POS for not jumping into the middle of it and that hurt. I am sorry about the money you lost, I know you are trying to make a living with this. I think that is awesome but not realistic long term, sorry. I think the bots and poor design of the reward system will kill this platform, and probably fairly soon.
Here is what I suspect deep down... One of all of those assholes is being funded by the banksters who are threatened by cryptocurrency. They are here to disrupt and destroy all they can. I cannot fight them financially, they have a printing press. I can fight them spiritually, I can refuse to engage in their hateful games. That is all I can really do. If you want to spend your account fighting them that is certainly your right and your choice, but to me, that is just feeding the beast.
And oh my God I just went to see what you are talking about... You are in a twist over a 50 cent upvote I got? Seriously? I will go donate it to your account, then I am not engaging with you on this topic any more. I do not play these games, not even with people I love.

I'm just explaining his accounts to you, I'm not in any twist please don't send me anything. And in my video I do not use the r word. I am explaining the reward pool, the purpose of downvoting and the way the system here is built.

You tell 'em Lyndsay!

Thank you for raising awareness on the importance of flagging in order to help manage our shared rewards pool.

I know there are some that see flagging as an act of abuse, and those that do not understand the difference between a flag, and rewarding other people - you've made that clear here I think!

It's also really nice to hear you state that 'we' are still new, and learning how to manage large scale abuse, and also be honest about their being lessons learned from this past 6 months that will help Steem and or other Block chains going into a similar set-up in the future.

Ace vlog!

Thanks for watching @abh12345 and for all your efforts making STEEM a great place to call home.

Aww thank you! I know many will say the same to you! :D

Spot.. fucking.. on sista! ⚑⚑⚑

Wow, you just gave me an education on that one. I never realized that before, but it makes absolute sense now that you say it. If the rewards on a post are decreasing and steem price is increasing, it does have to be others "stealing" from the rewards pool causing it.

It almost makes me wish the platform didn't even allow self-voting, but then the abusers would just create a second account to upvote themselves with.

I've not flagged anyone so far on here, but you've made the best case for doing it that I've seen and I've really got to take a closer look at the idea of participating. I may just delegate some SP to the cause. Though Haejin alone is not the only one abusing the system. I guess he's the worst though?

Anyway, thanks again for this.

That's great @indigoocean, I'm glad I was able to teach you something new.

Just do what feels right for you.

I have spent some time to read your post (my original language is Italian), but at the end I like your post and the themes you have talked about.
**You have gained a new follower!

Great, really nice to meet you Monica, thanks <3

...ehm...I am a boy!!!
Maybe you are wrong because my nickname ends with A and no with a O,
But I am sure I am a MAN!!!

I will be glad when we are strong enough as a community to bring back the n2 while keeping a muzzle on the greedy whales.

I've always was thinking about how many people use steemit wrong and break a lot of rules that someone needs to flag the posts so the platform will have more qualitative and original content rather than quantity which comes out with a lot of spam.
Of course there is the other aspect to help the newbies with delegations which is a bonus for you as well - it's important for people to know about this.
I'm happy to see another person who does it, and I truly respect that! 😊

I strongly agree @lyndsaybowes, we have to fight along here even though Steem in blockchain is fluctuating. success for all of us lyndsybowes.

Superb video, and well spoken, top lady.

Thanks for watching @deliberator, and for always speaking out.

I was doing some maths whilst watching, and opened steemit twice so I could view my 7 day posts, one post I had at $155 is down to $143 so minus 12$ and the price of sbd and steem over 7 days averages £2.40 or $3.90 https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/steemdollars so what you are saying relating to the reward pool is 100% correct.

It's easier to see when the price is stable. The price just went down so that affected what shows on our potential payouts. It's easier to see when STEEM, say, is at 2$ and it doesn't move for weeks but your posts keep dropping. That is from reward pool rape.

I noticed that post bernie did about Wednesday, not sure how he plans to achieve the $20 cap on H, though interesting to see what pans out.

He's got quite a bit of SP spread around, I wouldn't doubt him for a moment.

Great video and presentation style! It is nice to see this outlined because it is very confusing for some of us :)

I was able to watch that one mostly!! I wondered why just voting other people and spreading the votes around the good content wasn't enough to balance it out. Great video, thank you for it and to all the peeps who are fighting against this. I believe in Steemit <3

Happy to help Karen. Yes, when we "spread more votes around" we take away from every user's potential rewards, instead of using flags to remove potential rewards only from the abusers.

Been busy with moving, but going to start sending you what ever I can.
Ty

Thanks for all your vids and updates.
Its difficult to keep up with everything going on.

Much love

Also some one just made me aware of this:
http://www.newsweek.com/bill-gates-pandemic-disease-threat-could-kill-30-million-people-just-6-months-904988

I still stand by my statement =w= All these issues bleed into one, and when we focus on the solution the old skin becomes obsolete.

We can fix it all, while everyone is so independent, one thing we have difficulty with is coming together in harmony.

I still need to fight for my music account too... social media take over (but thats what makes this place gold even with the donkeys)

Thanks @xoxkasumix0x, message me!

You explained this in a way that really made sense.

It saddened me a bit when you said, "For those who are planning to migrate to different platforms..." I hope that the people in my circles hang in there. Worst case, I'd post on two different platforms, but I'm very resistant to the notion of jumping ship here...

I'm glad it made sense!

Booster is the spammers biggest ally, the spammies can use it to upvote their own **** comments. Just flagged $6.50 worth of these losers...

Ugh...thank you @overkillcoin!!

Thank you lyndsaybowes for your clear explanation of the problem.

I am learning, keep teaching. xx

Glad I found this, there is a lot of controversy around these issues and some folks don't even dare to talk about them, many people do things wrong without knowing it (myself included), I think we need to understand the whole thing to improve it as far as possible, thank you so much!

Why flag and why no flag!! I confuse @linsaybowes... what happen!!

There's still lots of confusion about this reward pool abuse. There's just so much mistrust now in whales because of some that's doing what they shouldn't do. It's good to fight for what's right as long as it's really "right".

Great review....... thanks for shearing

@lyndsaybowes, you know I always keep to use the steemit account wisely, I do not care about how many steemian love my post, I let my reputation run well as naturally as possible. but one thing I sure that I must post the real and beauty content without copy paste from the another!
I love to make my own work, hope the steemian will appreciate my work honestly without because "something"🙄

You're doing great and produce wonderful content here. <3 <3 <3

Thanks for clearing things up for us, Lyndsey; hopefully more people will use their flags to counter abuse!

Great work buddy I like it
Kindly follow me ...

Daily Learn some new from your post. Love to read it.

great post my senior 😍 I have been resteem your post okay!! please visit my blog and upvote my new post with walkwithme tag.@lyndsaybowes

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too bad he raped you again. another reward pool rape, from the reward pool rapest

He flags all of my posts once they hit the 7 day mark so that no one can upvote them anymore. You can't vote on a post if it has 12 hours until payout, but you can downvote it still, he takes more money off of me than anyone else this last three weeks, I guess I really get under his skin :)

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The Don loves it whena Lyndsay rants.

You havea the righteousness ona your side, you are a winning the battle.
I havea the informant who tella me your enemy hasa been to a the psychiatrist forra the counselling as he thinka that everybody donna like him no more.........

Whena you win you tella the Don, I getta rid of a the body for you.

Don Poltryoni - Body disposals & Exotic meats.

😂 😘 Love me sum @tremendospercy!

@tremendospercy how have you been?

Good thanks mate, you?