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RE: Thousands of dollars in rewards recovered to the reward pool.

in #abuse7 years ago (edited)

Great, @themarkymark! I definitely know why I voted your Witness activity :-) A question: would it be feasible to include in Steemit's blockchain the prohibition of creating more than 3 accounts coming from a same IP address?

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Unfortunately, that could be circumvented using an VPN or proxy. I think the community stepping up and developing sophisticated detection algorithms for scams, not unlike how cheetah detects plagiarism, would be a good thing.

Something that connect the website of abuse using data analytics and expose them would go a long way to discourage this type of behavior. We need to start making examples of these scammers. I've seen too many walk away relatively unscathed with a slap on the wrist. If someone is caught in a massive scam ring, their reputation should be downvoted into Oblivion so other potential scammers will think twice.

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes. Etc

¡Hello @anthonyadaavisii, nice to Steem you, and thanks for your detailed answer! (which led me to follow you, from now on :-)).

Totally agree about the sophisticated detection algorithms for scams - I see it as a shame that Witnesses (like @themarkymark) have to spend hours "manually" reviewing their bot users behaviour, to detect who are misusing it and cheating with the community...

Regarding your proposal: "If someone is caught in a massive scam ring, their reputation should be downvoted into Oblivion so other potential scammers will think twice", agreed too of course, but, if we consider this particular nuoviso case, have you seen his/her reputation? He stands at 64 (which is way more than mine, more than yours, and I guess that more than 95% of Steemians), and as far as I understand it (may be wrong, hehe) I have no means to downvote any of nuoviso's posts while I remain being of a lower reputation than him... We even cannot pretend he grabbed that reputation in a fraudulent manner, cause if you cast a glance at his profile, you'll see he's like the manager/editor of an "alternative news channel" (I haven't read enough to see if he claims to spread "anticapitalist counterinformation", but it wouldn't amaze me...), meaning he publishes on Steemit 2 to 4 videos a day, with quite of bunch of viewers and comments (mainly from the German-speaking community), and I don't detect the tiniest hint of him intending to "think twice" about carrying on with his scam.

Even more: he's somehow showing the way to other potential scammers, with a message like: "hey guys, if you wanna get the max money out of Steemit and laugh loud in the face of all honest Steemians, don't adopt a stealth or clandestine-like attitude, no, create one or two accounts, feeding them with quality contents, gaining legit audience and public praise, and only then, as a side activity, build your massive scam ring. Trust me, you'll be intouchable".

Rep is very hard to remove after 62 or so.

Flagging is the process to stop spam/abuse but no one wants to do it or has the power, nor should they have to.

@themarkymark Do you include in that "no one" Steemcleaners and Cheetah?

At least these posts of yours are heavily contributing to weave connections and share thoughts between antiscam Steemians, they're a genuine "com-post" towards a cleaner community :-)

SteemCleaners does a lot but there is so much to deal with and much of it is well hidden.

@themarkymark Yes, it requires permanent vigilance. Ah, I've just posted my first blog article, about a "SteemCyclopedia" project. I guess it's not sooo sexy, haha (not dealing with a new cryptocurrency, proposing instead to strenghten STEEM and SBD). Would it be eligible to Build a Whale, or which outreach channels would you recommend?