IT'S ALIVE!!!!
The new option to send Lightning to Hive is now live.
Click here: lnd.v4v.app search for a Hive account, verify the name and picture, fill in a memo and an amount then hit either Hive or HBD to send that value.
I just sent myself 10,000 sats for 4.357 HBD (4.600 - 0.243 change).
I immediately sent 10,000 sats back to myself and received 4.115 HBD.
The fees in each direction are 200 sats + 0.8%. So this cost me 0.242 HBD. Obviously if you move more reasonable sums the fees drop off quickly..
"conversion": {
"conv_from": "HBD",
"sats": 571.6845878136199,
"HIVE": 0.24905601453595658,
"HBD": 0.242,
"USD": 0.24562999999999996
}
The rates are the spot rates from CoinGeko so the system is really not taking a cut on the rates.
This is NOT completely Trustless
For a few seconds, up to a minute or two (especially when paying from Hive into Lightning as has been done many many times over the last few months), it can take my system some time to either find a path to pay the Lightning invoice or fail. These failures have become increasingly rare. If there is a failure on the Lightning side I return all the Hive funds and that happens on Hive timescales: very fast.
When you send a Lightning payment (by scanning the invoice the system shows you), the Hive or HBD is usually sent within a second. My system only pays Hive or HBD if it receives Lightning and these transfers of Lightning are irreversible and can't even be refunded.
If for any reason the system can't make a Hive or HBD payment, it will scream at me via various back channels until I can either make sure there are enough funds to make the payment or figure out if something else has gone wrong.
Experimental Proof of Concept
I've been testing this a whole lot myself but these things are always a little bit experimental at the beginning. Transfers are capped at 100,000 sats so under $50. My reputation is behind this service right now.
Decentralisation
The next step, which I've always been clear about, is that I don't want to be the only person running this code. I need to package this up and make it available for others to run. Running this requires the skill of keeping a balanced, well connected Lightning node with a capital investment of Bitcoin. I believe I can make the mechanics of the Hive/Lightning interface easy to run, but the Lightning side is out of my hands.
Then the plan is to have Hive chose which gateway processes any given transfer and by this means we have a decentralised system linking two of the most viable ultra low fee value transfer systems on the planet.
Bugs?
I'm sure there will be a few things I haven't caught and I'm waiting to squash them!
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And of course, this is all thanks to all of you and the amazing Hive DHF for sponsoring this work which I believe benefits all of Hive.
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This is awesome!
I have some sats left at my Nicehash Account, it's not much but transfering it away felt useless. Now I can make a use out of them. With some steps I can "mine" Hive that way!
There are many use cases for that! Thank you!
Can you explain what's lightning in few words ? Do you mean that we will be able to send to accounts less than 0.001 hive ? Something like satoshies in bitcoin, how many numbers after '' , '' it's possible now ?
I had been looking for a simple way to convert HIVE to BTC on the Lightning Network and vice versa for days. I came across your interface by chance. I have not tried it yet because problems have arisen and I am undercapitalized. But I'm sure it's a great service. I hope to be able to test it soon. Grateful for this great work friend, you deserve all the support and therefore, you will have mine. Greetings.
Let the games begin! Congrats on this integration and pushing HIVE closer to Bitcoin than any other cryptocurrency. Now we need to get it out there in the open and broadcast the h**l out of it!!! ;))
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Great work @brianoflondon 🤝. I can't imagine the efforts and resources put in place in developing something as great as this.
This is cool, and a great breakthrough having a decentralized system with ultra low fee value transfers.
I hope you get the best hands to help you with this as it is not easy to run a great software solution like this alone.
Thumbs up 👍 and thanks for providing this solution to hive and its users.
Wonderful Bridge.I have heard you explain this lighting project severally. I believe this would greatly benefit Hive if we have everyone up and running. Great work @brianoflondon.
I'm looking to kick off my interview series again, it will be my pleasure to ask you some Hive questions via an audio podcast.
sats? (There might be more people like me not knowing what sat is ) (I will look it up as well)
Sorry! A Sat is a 100,000,000'th of a Bitcoin. There are 100,000,000 Sats in a whole Bitcoin and Sats are the usual denomination of payments on the bitcoin network.
You can see typical conversion rates here:
https://peakd.com/@v4vapp/hive-to-lightning-gateway-fees
Time for more exposure on the big screen for other to see and use!
I think I have to sit up and try to understand this whole idea.
Excellent work, Brian! 👏🏻
this is a wonderful work i wanna learn more about smart contracts in the web 3.0 althougt i need lern more about programation
Really a great work brain for the growth of Hive 👍. Anyone can invest in Hive easily by converting there sats into Hive.
Nice job. I think that having options are always better and it can definitely make the investment process into Hive easier.
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I feel educated reading this article, great work. I look forward to more of your fascinating articles.
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I feel really ignorant but... I've been here on hive for a month and I don't know this thing, are there any other articles I can learn something about this project from?
This works like a charme! Many thanks.
This is awesome am really impressed your hard work towards it was successful. Keep up the good work moving
This is great! Thanks and congrats!
I'll try to do some testing later!
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super cool that the Lightning Hive Bridge now works in both directions :)
wow! congratulations! Tried it, and it worked like a charm! I'll be testing it now and will let you know if I encounter any bugs. But let me tell you that this opens up HIVE to huge number of people who already use or will soon use Bitcoin Lightning. Like I've said in other posts, Bitcoin Lightning is being adopted in El Salvador and neighboring countries, so we're right in the middle of something huge.
Samson Mow of Blockstream was actually in my studio last week:
so #probablynothing or the revolution is happening right in front of our eyes :)
This is amazing. It's working now, can take some time find a path to pay the lightning invoice. But the main thing is it's fast and improving. Soon it be running flawless !
This is amazing, thank you, upvoted 100% from my humble stake. LFG
awesome, congrats on this major milestone!
I literally gasped when I saw your post! This is such exciting news 😃
Thank you for doing the thing that helps us all get paid to do our thing and pay others for doing their thing.
This is crazy and mind-blowing, this is certainly a huge success to the whole Hive community. BTC lightning Hive Integration, that's an absolute addition and very innovative addition.
I am personally happy to see this update, maybe I can make use of this channel in the coming weeks to buy hive and send to the Hive Account.
So impressed with how this was merely a concept only few months ago and here we are, done and dusted. Thanks for seeing this through. Awesome job
Very very cool! :>
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good stuff bro
So interesting 🤔🤔
Thank you so for this news 😍